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Post by jefra on Dec 18, 2014 18:10:07 GMT -5
Jay what season of greys anotomy you are?
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Dec 18, 2014 18:35:19 GMT -5
Post by Silas Gaither on Dec 18, 2014 18:35:19 GMT -5
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Dec 18, 2014 18:46:35 GMT -5
Post by jay on Dec 18, 2014 18:46:35 GMT -5
Jay what season of greys anotomy you are? 6 still!
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Post by jay on Dec 18, 2014 18:52:39 GMT -5
Thanks for the kind words everyone, Brenda let Sean get into her head about how she was a follower as opposed to a leader, which in my opinion, is wrong. I fully intended to go to the final 3 with RC and Brenda and prove I deserved to win - alas!
Everything I did was not personal in any way at all, everything was calculated, so any ill move against anyone wasn't meant by harm purely strategic.
My main point in this would be Courtney - unfortunately, you took a brunt of an attack that was entirely based off of me trying to get and keep Silas on my side. As soon as I felt Silas was slipping I had to make him feel as though there was an ultimatum between choosing myself, and Courtney, due to my "terrible hatred" of her - it worked. Courtney, you've played enough games I should think that it doesn't really, or shouldn't really faze you at all. Calculated risk that paid off.
As for who should win, in my mind RC.
RC definitely played a background role in this game; however, there isn't a single move in this game that wasn't made without her. She had the pulse on every social interaction, and even when she voted in the minority, she did so willingly choosing her own path. She shed the idol before it could become a threat to the game, and even clearer - her and I were pretty much the most obvious pair in the game and remained entirely untouched until this round. Brenda has also played an excellent game, but most of the merge consisted of everyone else taking out the dominant Paget members, and she remains as the last standing. RC came in as the underdog at merge, with only myself and Silas - and managed to get to the end through pure strategic prowess.
Definitely encourage voting her, though I wouldn't mind a Brenda win, in terms of gameplay and as a good all-star winner, it should go to RC.
And if y'all vote Sean, lol. Plz don't, his only solid move was this round, and even at that, it's accredited to a paranoid Brenda.
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Post by malcolm on Dec 18, 2014 19:44:26 GMT -5
So Brenda was the one who voted you out? Very interesting, you definitely had this on lock had they not done that.
Honestly my only problem with RC is that she wasn't playing to win. She was just playing to make it to the Finals.
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Dec 18, 2014 19:49:18 GMT -5
Post by Silas Gaither on Dec 18, 2014 19:49:18 GMT -5
Jay, I know we've talked about this already, but I think you were far too concerned about whether or not I was on your side, when really you shouldn't have been. :/ I get the paranoia cause I was a shady bitch, but I was always sticking with you/RC no matter what and you were pretty much the only two I planned on being loyal to. I was never voting you out, or siding with Courtney over you.
Just cause I was playing with you, I was still playing my own game and thinking for myself, trying to make decisions that would be best for my game. I think at times you mistook that for me working against you, but I think once we hashed things out and I flipped back to vote out Courtney, you realised that. Too bad I was gone the round after.
Anyway, great game again, you were fantastic and definitely deserved to win!
RC is criminally underrated. I'll let her speak for herself, but she played hard from the very first round. She could've taken a back seat and let me be voted out first, instead she pulled Jamie/Ian over to our side and blindsided Vecepia, setting me/her up at the top of the tribe. Then on Bayamon, we had Jay/Ian/Jefra all wanting three person alliances with us. She easily played the best pre-merge game of anyone (I think Jay had the best post-merge, by far, but he's not in F3) and even though she's been a bit more UTR post-merge, I think she played it perfectly.
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Dec 18, 2014 23:44:03 GMT -5
Post by brian on Dec 18, 2014 23:44:03 GMT -5
Omg Jay good game! I'm shocked you're out, kinda bummed. I WANT to vote Sean on a personal level cause he tried pretty hard to save me the pre-merge round, and he stuck by me in the merge but I feel like Brenda played the biggest game, but I can see what some of you guys are saying about RC. I think RC played more quietly, but a BIGGER/LOUDER game doesn't ALWAYS = better/stronger. One big qualm I have with voting RC is that she was perfectly happy going to the finals with Jay who I think would have creamed her, and other than that, IDK too much about her game other than what you guys have said. I'm pretty undecided rn though. Kind of exciting with Jay out, it'll be a bit more in the air I think, ahhh good game again!
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Dec 19, 2014 13:30:50 GMT -5
Post by Manic Marit on Dec 19, 2014 13:30:50 GMT -5
jay, I wasn't offended; I just found it tasteless. I laughed about it in my confessional, calling you a "wack-a-do". Silas Gaither, if you never had plans to betray Jay then why did you approach me, asking for a plan to blindside Jay later in the game?
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Dec 19, 2014 13:54:32 GMT -5
Post by Silas Gaither on Dec 19, 2014 13:54:32 GMT -5
Silas Gaither, if you never had plans to betray Jay then why did you approach me, asking for a plan to blindside Jay later in the game? Honestly, I don't remember that and even looked through my entire chat log and I never approached you about blindsiding Jay lol. Maybe you can have a look yourself and show me something I apparently don't even remember and can't find either. I remember talking about it a lot with Sean during the F7/8 rounds, but as RC has already said at FTC, I filled both her/Jay in on that and was just playing along with what he was saying, we figured it was best for our games so people didn't think me/him/RC were together.
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Post by malcolm on Dec 19, 2014 14:21:20 GMT -5
It's noble how loyal RC was to Jay, but I just can't get passed the fact that she was willing to give up and let him win. It's super nice and she's clearly a great person, but she blatantly did not play to win.
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Dec 19, 2014 14:40:34 GMT -5
Post by Silas Gaither on Dec 19, 2014 14:40:34 GMT -5
Brenda had chances to take Jay out as well, before F4. I'm not so sure that "playing to win" is relying on Sean beating him in a tiebreak challenge, which she had no control over at all.
It's a good point though, I'm wondering if someone will question RC on that directly, if she was okay with losing to Jay.
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Dec 19, 2014 16:05:37 GMT -5
Post by andrewsavage on Dec 19, 2014 16:05:37 GMT -5
Tbf, I think brenda really wanted to take jay to the finals too. She just finally smelled the roses and realized she would've lost, lol.
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Dec 19, 2014 16:52:11 GMT -5
Post by Manic Marit on Dec 19, 2014 16:52:11 GMT -5
Silas Gaither, if you never had plans to betray Jay then why did you approach me, asking for a plan to blindside Jay later in the game? Honestly, I don't remember that and even looked through my entire chat log and I never approached you about blindsiding Jay lol. Maybe you can have a look yourself and show me something I apparently don't even remember and can't find either. I remember talking about it a lot with Sean during the F7/8 rounds, but as RC has already said at FTC, I filled both her/Jay in on that and was just playing along with what he was saying, we figured it was best for our games so people didn't think me/him/RC were together. I looked at my logs like crazy, but couldn't find it. Then I realized it wasn't on AIM. xD It was during our conversation in PM during a challenge. I apologize if my words made it seem like it was more devious than it was. xD We were talking about voting out Morgan, which I said would take out a threat and bring Jay closer to us cause he'd have one less ally that wasn't You/RC to lean on. Then out of nowhere, you asked when I'd be cool with cutting him loose without RC's help. That's what I meant.
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Dec 19, 2014 20:29:52 GMT -5
Post by Manic Marit on Dec 19, 2014 20:29:52 GMT -5
The more I hear from RC the less impressed I get with her game. Everything from who she worked with to who she targeted seems to be based on PAST games instead of THIS game.
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Dec 19, 2014 21:30:18 GMT -5
Post by jay on Dec 19, 2014 21:30:18 GMT -5
I'd like to kind of put out there that the "lose for each other" mentality was very mutual between myself, RC, and Brenda. In all honesty, until I came in here, I was very much under the impression that y'all bitterly would not vote me. I think all of us were willing to work together to get here, and one of us win, that's an alright mentality to have in my opinion.
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