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[jay]

Dec 19, 2014 20:29:52 GMT -5 Manic Marit said:

The more I hear from RC the less impressed I get with her game. Everything from who she worked with to who she targeted seems to be based on PAST games instead of THIS game.

I'm sorry - this is All-Stars, EVERYONE played the game this way. And the fact that you had no allies was pretty tentative to your lack of social game, and also realizing this. If you refused to look at past relationships, you were at a disadvantage, All-Stars games are entirely based on past relationships that's the point of all-stars.

[Silas Gaither]

Dec 19, 2014 16:52:11 GMT -5 Manic Marit said:

Dec 19, 2014 13:54:32 GMT -5 Silas Gaither said:

Honestly, I don't remember that and even looked through my entire chat log and I never approached you about blindsiding Jay lol. Maybe you can have a look yourself and show me something I apparently don't even remember and can't find either.

I remember talking about it a lot with Sean during the F7/8 rounds, but as RC has already said at FTC, I filled both her/Jay in on that and was just playing along with what he was saying, we figured it was best for our games so people didn't think me/him/RC were together.

I looked at my logs like crazy, but couldn't find it. Then I realized it wasn't on AIM. xD It was during our conversation in PM during a challenge. I apologize if my words made it seem like it was more devious than it was. xD We were talking about voting out Morgan, which I said would take out a threat and bring Jay closer to us cause he'd have one less ally that wasn't You/RC to lean on. Then out of nowhere, you asked when I'd be cool with cutting him loose without RC's help. That's what I meant.

Lol okay, that was a bit blown out of proportion, but it's fine. It was around this time that RC/I talked about an ideal F5 with Jay/you/Sean, we felt that all three of you would want to go to the end with us and that would set us up perfectly. I knew Jay had better connections with players like Brenda/Bob/Morgan than I did, so I wanted them gone to make sure he had nowhere to turn but me, cause I knew you/Sean would always be targeting Jay over me (and was happy for you both to do that, as long as the focus wasn't on me), and I wouldn't be in any danger at all and would easily make it to the end no matter what. Problem was, when I was trying to keep you safe at F8, Jay thought I was working with you to try and take him out later, so eventually I had to sacrifice you to prove to him that it really wasn't the case, I wanted you out in 4th before then. :/ But had to make that tough call earlier than I wanted, even if I admittedly played that entire round like a moron. Hope that explains it.

[Manic Marit]

Dec 19, 2014 21:44:29 GMT -5 jay said:

Dec 19, 2014 20:29:52 GMT -5 Manic Marit said:

The more I hear from RC the less impressed I get with her game. Everything from who she worked with to who she targeted seems to be based on PAST games instead of THIS game.

I'm sorry - this is All-Stars, EVERYONE played the game this way. And the fact that you had no allies was pretty tentative to your lack of social game, and also realizing this. If you refused to look at past relationships, you were at a disadvantage, All-Stars games are entirely based on past relationships that's the point of all-stars.

No. EVERYONE did not. I didn't. Which, I agree, is likely why I was at a disadvantage. I enjoy coming in and getting to know people in THIS game, not trying to see who I do and don't know from past games. That isn't fun to me and it's not impressive gameplay in my opinion. Also, I didn't lack allies or a social game.

[Manic Marit]

Dec 20, 2014 9:47:01 GMT -5 Silas Gaither said:

Dec 19, 2014 16:52:11 GMT -5 Manic Marit said:

I looked at my logs like crazy, but couldn't find it. Then I realized it wasn't on AIM. xD It was during our conversation in PM during a challenge. I apologize if my words made it seem like it was more devious than it was. xD We were talking about voting out Morgan, which I said would take out a threat and bring Jay closer to us cause he'd have one less ally that wasn't You/RC to lean on. Then out of nowhere, you asked when I'd be cool with cutting him loose without RC's help. That's what I meant.

Lol okay, that was a bit blown out of proportion, but it's fine. It was around this time that RC/I talked about an ideal F5 with Jay/you/Sean, we felt that all three of you would want to go to the end with us and that would set us up perfectly. I knew Jay had better connections with players like Brenda/Bob/Morgan than I did, so I wanted them gone to make sure he had nowhere to turn but me, cause I knew you/Sean would always be targeting Jay over me (and was happy for you both to do that, as long as the focus wasn't on me), and I wouldn't be in any danger at all and would easily make it to the end no matter what. Problem was, when I was trying to keep you safe at F8, Jay thought I was working with you to try and take him out later, so eventually I had to sacrifice you to prove to him that it really wasn't the case, I wanted you out in 4th before then. :/ But had to make that tough call earlier than I wanted, even if I admittedly played that entire round like a moron. Hope that explains it.

I was always aware I'd get 4th place at best with You/RC. You guys always made it clear Jay came first. That's why I was surprised when you asked me when would be a good time to cut Jay loose, which I didn't blow out of proportion. My original question in here was, if you weren't willing to blindside him...then why did you ask me that? Up to that point, we had never once talked about taking Jay out. Only how to take out his allies (like Morgan) to bring him closer to You/RC. Or on occasion me lumping him with Morgan when talking about how to take out the other "side". lol

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[Silas Gaither]

Dec 20, 2014 15:15:38 GMT -5 Manic Marit said:

Dec 20, 2014 9:47:01 GMT -5 Silas Gaither said:

Lol okay, that was a bit blown out of proportion, but it's fine. It was around this time that RC/I talked about an ideal F5 with Jay/you/Sean, we felt that all three of you would want to go to the end with us and that would set us up perfectly. I knew Jay had better connections with players like Brenda/Bob/Morgan than I did, so I wanted them gone to make sure he had nowhere to turn but me, cause I knew you/Sean would always be targeting Jay over me (and was happy for you both to do that, as long as the focus wasn't on me), and I wouldn't be in any danger at all and would easily make it to the end no matter what. Problem was, when I was trying to keep you safe at F8, Jay thought I was working with you to try and take him out later, so eventually I had to sacrifice you to prove to him that it really wasn't the case, I wanted you out in 4th before then. :/ But had to make that tough call earlier than I wanted, even if I admittedly played that entire round like a moron. Hope that explains it.

I was always aware I'd get 4th place at best with You/RC. You guys always made it clear Jay came first. That's why I was surprised when you asked me when would be a good time to cut Jay loose, which I didn't blow out of proportion. My original question in here was, if you weren't willing to blindside him...then why did you ask me that? Up to that point, we had never once talked about taking Jay out. Only how to take out his allies (like Morgan) to bring him closer to You/RC. Or on occasion me lumping him with Morgan when talking about how to take out the other "side". lol

I said I wasn't sure if voting for Morgan was a good idea cause I didn't want to displease Jay, then you said "who cares about that, we don't need Jay for anything" so I was trying to find out if you wanted him around long term or were looking to take him out soon. Besides, I was playing into Sean's plan to blindside Jay, and promised Brenda that if she voted out Morgan at F7, I'd vote out Jay with her at F6. Doesn't mean it was actually my intention, I told him/RC about all of this at the time anyway lol and we agreed it was a good idea for people to think we'd be willing to vote each other at that point. Everyone knew we were both extremely close with RC and would never vote her out, so the last thing I wanted was for people to see us as a tight group of three who needed to be split up.

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Sean really needs to let go of RC/Brenda "relying" on their pre-game relationship with Jay to help them, he's the one who admitted to targeting players such as myself, solely based on previous history, it's ridiculous. Like Brenda said, I guess it's his only card to play at this point.

[Manic Marit]

Dec 21, 2014 7:25:30 GMT -5 Silas Gaither said:

Dec 20, 2014 15:15:38 GMT -5 Manic Marit said:

I was always aware I'd get 4th place at best with You/RC. You guys always made it clear Jay came first. That's why I was surprised when you asked me when would be a good time to cut Jay loose, which I didn't blow out of proportion. My original question in here was, if you weren't willing to blindside him...then why did you ask me that? Up to that point, we had never once talked about taking Jay out. Only how to take out his allies (like Morgan) to bring him closer to You/RC. Or on occasion me lumping him with Morgan when talking about how to take out the other "side". lol

I said I wasn't sure if voting for Morgan was a good idea cause I didn't want to displease Jay, then you said "who cares about that, we don't need Jay for anything" so I was trying to find out if you wanted him around long term or were looking to take him out soon. Besides, I was playing into Sean's plan to blindside Jay, and promised Brenda that if she voted out Morgan at F7, I'd vote out Jay with her at F6. Doesn't mean it was actually my intention, I told him/RC about all of this at the time anyway lol and we agreed it was a good idea for people to think we'd be willing to vote each other at that point. Everyone knew we were both extremely close with RC and would never vote her out, so the last thing I wanted was for people to see us as a tight group of three who needed to be split up.

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Sean really needs to let go of RC/Brenda "relying" on their pre-game relationship with Jay to help them, he's the one who admitted to targeting players such as myself, solely based on previous history, it's ridiculous. Like Brenda said, I guess it's his only card to play at this point.

When I said that, I was talking about that particular vote. In taking out Morgan, not in the grand scheme of the game. xD At least now I understand. So thanks for that. ^.^