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[Host Brandon]

Judgment #6A - Paget

Jamie vs Morgan

Welcome to your next Judgement Ceremony!!


~~RULES OF JUDGEMENT~~
•You must vote on time.  Late votes result in me taking a vote off of your list.  That is very very bad!
•Answer the below questions within the time as well.
•Include a confessional for round #6.
•Parchments are required.



~QUESTIONS~

Jamie & Morgan ~ Why should YOU stay over your opponent?
Everyone Else ~ What are the pros and cons to keeping Jamie and Morgan?


Make sure to vote in the Voting History thread in your confessional! You have ~24 hours to vote. Remember, if I have to take from your boot list twice in a row, you will be removed from the game.  Simple solution: remember to vote!

Due: Thursday November 20, 2014 @ 11:00pm EST

[malcolm]

The pro to keeping Morgan is that you know where she stands. She's open about her game and how she feels, and although that may hurt her at times, you know where she's at in the game. That's also a con.

The con about Jamie is that he's a proven liar in this game, having already pulled off a shady stunt the first chance he got taking out Vee and keeping a chunk of the tribe needlessly in the dark. He sucks at challenges and hasn't been a solid contributing team member in any of them, even from the start. Hell I sure as fuck know there's no way he could feel confident enough to do as badly as he did in this challenge. Even Ethan who has done nothing all game showed up for this one. And finally, Jamie will jump back to RC, Silas and Ian the minute he has the opportunity. If you want to give him that opportunity, that's your prerogative. In my eyes there's no pro to keeping Jamie.

[ethan]

I honestly cant think of one good thing to say about Morgan. I can't tell if she is doing this game in character or if she is really that unbearable but either way.....




Jamie isn't Morgan. That's his biggest asset to me at the moment even though he didn't do so well in the challenge.

[brian]

What are the pros and cons to keeping Jamie and Morgan?

The pros to keeping Jamie are that I was with him in my original season and I probably talked to him more than most of his tribe while I was able to sit in on their tribal council and vote with them. The cons to keeping him are that we were enemies in our original season and I don't think there are many alliances based on seasons, so that's pretty irrelevant. It's hard to trust him and know where he stands at times, and I think keeping him would upset some people.

The pros to keeping Morgan are that I've been on her tribe longer and I've had more time to talk to her. She is a strong performer in tribal challenges and always reliable and contributing in conversations. The con to keeping Morgan is that she can be strong when this is an individual game, even though when it came down to individual immunity - I think she contributed more when it was for tribal immunity <3

[Jamie]

Nov 19, 2014 22:39:13 GMT -5 malcolm said:

The con about Jamie is that he's a proven liar in this game, having already pulled off a shady stunt the first chance he got taking out Vee and keeping a chunk of the tribe needlessly in the dark.

Yeah okay, this after you told people I should be voted out because I didn't make the first challenge...? Which was a LIVE CHALLENGE in which I had already made plans for at the time of the challenge. What was I supposed to do? Come up to you and be like "Oh Malcolm you shouldn't vote me out even though I know you're telling everybody you want to. Instead vote with me and help me take out Vee, yay!". Don't be a bitter bitch just because you were in the minority for that, aight? Cool.

I should stay over my opponent because I'm pretty active in tribe chats and all that. As long as you're nice to me, I'm going to have conversations with you. I may not seem active in Malcolm's eyes because him and I don't get along, so therefore we don't talk. Simple. Everyone else on the tribe I like, and therefore I am willing to have conversations with you.

Also, I'm not good at challenges? Okay, what are we going to base that on? The fact that I couldn't make the first live challenge? Yeah, I already explained a million times over that it's stupid to base my worth off of that. I made previous plans, therefore couldn't make a live challenge. If you can't forgive that, then clearly you don't have much of a life. Other than that and this individual challenge, what challenges have I done bad on? Get your facts straight Sir Malcolm.

[malcolm]

Nov 20, 2014 3:16:12 GMT -5 Jamie said:

Nov 19, 2014 22:39:13 GMT -5 malcolm said:

The con about Jamie is that he's a proven liar in this game, having already pulled off a shady stunt the first chance he got taking out Vee and keeping a chunk of the tribe needlessly in the dark.

Yeah okay, this after you told people I should be voted out because I didn't make the first challenge...? Which was a LIVE CHALLENGE in which I had already made plans for at the time of the challenge. What was I supposed to do? Come up to you and be like "Oh Malcolm you shouldn't vote me out even though I know you're telling everybody you want to. Instead vote with me and help me take out Vee, yay!". Don't be a bitter bitch just because you were in the minority for that, aight? Cool.

I should stay over my opponent because I'm pretty active in tribe chats and all that. As long as you're nice to me, I'm going to have conversations with you. I may not seem active in Malcolm's eyes because him and I don't get along, so therefore we don't talk. Simple. Everyone else on the tribe I like, and therefore I am willing to have conversations with you.

Also, I'm not good at challenges? Okay, what are we going to base that on? The fact that I couldn't make the first live challenge? Yeah, I already explained a million times over that it's stupid to base my worth off of that. I made previous plans, therefore couldn't make a live challenge. If you can't forgive that, then clearly you don't have much of a life. Other than that and this individual challenge, what challenges have I done bad on? Get your facts straight Sir Malcolm.

WHAT A JOKE! hahaha. Lying again, you weren't even the target the first round, I even told you not to worry about missing the challenge that first round because I wanted to vote Silas out. Which you knew and the votes reflected. You weren't even considered. But again, this is "all about you missing the first live challenge" so the fact that you have openly lied once again isn't a factor at all. Also way not to even address the bigger issue of the fact that you'll run right back to Ian/Silas/RC the minute you can. Couldn't lie about that one.

[andrewsavage]

[Jamie]

Nov 20, 2014 7:20:18 GMT -5 malcolm said:

Nov 20, 2014 3:16:12 GMT -5 Jamie said:

Yeah okay, this after you told people I should be voted out because I didn't make the first challenge...? Which was a LIVE CHALLENGE in which I had already made plans for at the time of the challenge. What was I supposed to do? Come up to you and be like "Oh Malcolm you shouldn't vote me out even though I know you're telling everybody you want to. Instead vote with me and help me take out Vee, yay!". Don't be a bitter bitch just because you were in the minority for that, aight? Cool.

I should stay over my opponent because I'm pretty active in tribe chats and all that. As long as you're nice to me, I'm going to have conversations with you. I may not seem active in Malcolm's eyes because him and I don't get along, so therefore we don't talk. Simple. Everyone else on the tribe I like, and therefore I am willing to have conversations with you.

Also, I'm not good at challenges? Okay, what are we going to base that on? The fact that I couldn't make the first live challenge? Yeah, I already explained a million times over that it's stupid to base my worth off of that. I made previous plans, therefore couldn't make a live challenge. If you can't forgive that, then clearly you don't have much of a life. Other than that and this individual challenge, what challenges have I done bad on? Get your facts straight Sir Malcolm.

WHAT A JOKE! hahaha. Lying again, you weren't even the target the first round, I even told you not to worry about missing the challenge that first round because I wanted to vote Silas out. Which you knew and the votes reflected. You weren't even considered. But again, this is "all about you missing the first live challenge" so the fact that you have openly lied once again isn't a factor at all. Also way not to even address the bigger issue of the fact that you'll run right back to Ian/Silas/RC the minute you can. Couldn't lie about that one.

HAHAHA HILARIOUS JOKE I AGREE! LIKE... SO FUNNY!

Don't pretend that you didn't go up to Silas and tell him I should be voted out because I missed the challenge. You can deny it all you want, you brought my name up, it happened. So while you want to sit here and call me a liar, you just lied. Good job Malcolm, you want to sound like that innocent little angel, you're lying just as much, if not more than anybody else. Sure, you came up to me and told me not to worry because Silas was your target... But you told Silas the same exact thing, but replaced his name with mine. How am I supposed to know who you're actually being truthful to? For all I knew, you were trying to get me out and were trying to convince me to vote Silas so I didn't suspect anything.

And sure, I'll address "the bigger issue" right now. As I said, you brought my name up. That's simple. You did it. So obviously I'm not going to be Malcolm's biggest fan and want to join you. Well, you were in an obvious alliance with Vee and Heidi as well, so by association I am not about to join up with them either. Who does that leave me with? Ian/Silas/RC. Ian and I left our season off on a really bad note, so I was hesitant about working with him... but the one thing that Ian had over you? He didn't bring my name up. That was on you. So obviously I'm going to join the people that had a common interest with me. So Vee left, and then Heidi left... and yes, admittedly, you would have left had we gone to another tribal council. BUT that's all on you. If you hadn't brought my name up to Silas and then lie to me and tell me it never happened, I wouldn't have been so against you and things could have been different. And besides, they're on the other tribe... and I'm over here. The only reason we were together is because we had common enemies, and now we don't have that bond... and plus I'm made new bonds here, and they've probably made new bonds over there. AND ON TOP OF THAT, who here doesn't have an alliance? Even if I was going to join back with Ian/Silas/RC (which I'm not, but you can believe what you want), everybody here had some sort of alliance before the swap happened, so you can use that excuse as a reason to get anybody out.

AND ALSO, it's kind of suspicious that all this accusation towards me is coming out of nowhere. You and I have been extremely civil throughout the game and have had normal conversations and we actually got along for the most part. But suddenly it's either Morgan or I going home and you come out guns blazing. Why is that? Is it just because you hate me so much that you want me out? Because I have a strange feeling it's more because you love Morgan so much that you need her to stay or you're screwed. And what's even funnier? You're from the same season, so it totally makes sense for you two to be working together. So I appreciate you trying to save your ally here, and it very well could work... and if so, good on you. But while you're accusing me of alliances and lying, I hope people realize that you more than likely would not have put up this much of a fight if I was against anybody else on the tribe tonight, and it's all because Morgan is your ally. Go ahead, deny that all you want. I'm sure you will.

[malcolm]

You’re right I did talk to Silas about you as an option that round, because he brought it up and I wasn’t going to tell him I was voting for him. I also told you that your name had been brought up but not to worry. You’re now telling quite the different story of what happened from the initial “you told people to vote me out”. Already trying to backtrack….

Also you even admit that we don’t talk, so sure we have been civil for challenges, but this animosity is sure as hell not coming out of nowhere. After the Vee blindside nobody from your alliance talked to me. You chose to completely alienate myself and Heidi. And now you’re shocked that in a social game that can create animosity.

And your excuse that I’m suddenly doing this to save Morgan is laughable. This isn’t sudden. The moment I switched over and started talking to people I told them exactly what had happened on our old tribe and how I want you and Ethan out. Ya, me and Morgan played together, but if you knew what happened our season you’d know that the minute I needed something from Morgan to save myself in the game, Morgan didn’t help me and I got voted out. You being against Morgan this round has nothing to do with it, I’ve been gunning against you and Ethan the minute I had a tribe with people willing to listen, and they can all attest to that.

I answered the TC question being honest about you. Facts are facts, and the fact of the matter is you’re a shady player with your true alliance controlling the other tribe. If people have other allies on that tribe, your group is picking them off, and you are still a member of that alliance. You can use false sensationalized stories of how I “need” and “love” Morgan, or continue to back track and lie about things that have happened in the game, like you already have in this thread to try to get people on your side so you can join back up with your old group, and if they do that’s their choice, I’m just advising against it.

[brenda]

What are the pros and cons to keeping Jamie and Morgan?

The pro to keeping Jamie is that maybe we'll get more amazing tribal fights between him and Malcolm because damn I am loving this. The cons... dude you don't talk to me much. When I message you you don't answer but you answer in like the tribe chat so...

The pros to keeping Morgan are that she um. She. Well she's really um. Honest. Yeah! She's honest. That's a pro. She also is good at answering messages and she's fun to talk to and she's a top *eyes emoji* that's convenient. The con is that she thinks she's funnier than me and that's a p r o b l e m. Pretend that Iggy / Ariana song is playing in the background.

[brenda]

Also can you guys keep fighting please it's giving me life

[Morgan McLeod]

Nov 20, 2014 0:39:01 GMT -5 ethan said:

I honestly cant think of one good thing to say about Morgan. I can't tell if she is doing this game in character or if she is really that unbearable but either way.....

Wow. I should literally go home because Ethan said so.
As the mastermind and clear leader // most active member of this tribe it is very clear I have an uphill battle. 

[Morgan McLeod]

Morgan ~ Why should YOU stay over your opponent?

Honestly, I don't know if I have a chance at all. You saw how Ethan who is our most active and social tribemaate has called me unbearable so my chances are slim to none. 
However, I do think that I should give this a shot, in case people want to dethrone King Ethan...
Basically I should stay because despite the fact that I am clearly unbearable, I am very upfront and honest, people know exactly where I stand and where I am going to voting. I have already said multiple times that my targets were Jamie and Ethan because they don't talk to me at all, and people have to know that I am truthful. I am not a shady character at all, in reality I would rather tell someone I am voting for them than try something else because I am too lazy to attempt a blindside. Furthermore I am heaps more interesting to talk to than a lot of other people, I am definitely prettier to stare at, and I have a great sense of humor. Furthermore now that Tanya is gone I have no alliances on the other tribe so I am good to go. ALSO, I am not in any rumored pre-game alliances like my competitor. 

[Morgan McLeod]

I also want to say, I am too lazy to campaign.
And I trust people will make the right decision.
So don't get offended if I don't approach you <3

[brenda]

But why did the fighting stop